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The Optimal Life with Nate Haber

Inspirational conversations with extraordinary people.

Aug 24, 2023

Phil Smith is a serial entrepreneur, 5-time Inc. 5000 award honoree and expert in business-to-business lead generation.  His latest company,, helps businesses scale through advanced digital marketing efforts.  Near the end of our conversation, we took an unexpected turn into Phil's tough teenage years losing both of his parents and the demons that have followed him to this day.

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